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Re: Which is better anti-Sveshnikov? 3 Bb5 or 3 Nc
Reply #5 - 01/23/07 at 11:17:47
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The point about that line is (somewhat like the Bb5 Sicilian lines) it limits Blacks chances for active play - by this I believe White reduces his chance of losing, although he may also reduce his statistical chance of winning. Still I think Leko is telling a bit of a lie to say it is equal (a bit like Kasparov when he didnt fancy Bb5+ and said players only play this for a draw) - players normally say this when they are a little annoyed by there opponents opening choice. White still has an edge, but only a very slight one, like the other ant-Sicilians I mentioned, the point is Blacks opportunity for active play has been limited.
  
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Re: Which is better anti-Sveshnikov? 3 Bb5 or 3 Nc
Reply #4 - 01/22/07 at 19:25:14
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Keano wrote on 01/22/07 at 16:41:19:
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What you say here is of course correct - it is a trade-off really. Instead of the Svesh you have to be ready to play 2 possible anti-Sicilians:

1) the line with 3...e5 (recommended by Rogozenko but I know of very few players who like this as Black)


I think I read an article by Leko on this recently (it was following some supertournament and he was being critizied for all his draws), he explained that all his draws were not his fault, at least not when white opens 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 e5 which according to him is just dead equal (without any particularly interesting options for either side). He made some further comments about how he just didn't understand what the white players were aiming for unless they were looking for a draw.
  
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Re: Which is better anti-Sveshnikov? 3 Bb5 or 3 Nc
Reply #3 - 01/22/07 at 16:41:19
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photophore wrote on 12/17/06 at 10:17:00:

Now is 3 Nc3 yet an Anti-Sicilian , or just a way of playing Open Sicilian with avoiding the Svesh' ?


Sorry I didnt read the whole of your post, anything longer than 3 or 4 lines seems to escape my attention.

What you say here is of course correct - it is a trade-off really. Instead of the Svesh you have to be ready to play 2 possible anti-Sicilians:

1) the line with 3...e5 (recommended by Rogozenko but I know of very few players who like this as Black)
2) after 3...Nf6 4.Bb5! has a good reputation for White, but all is far from clear

Also - bear in mind that after 3...g6!? there is no longer a Maroczy possible after 4.d4, and the status of 4.Bb5 there doesnt convince me.

After writing and thinking about this I now begin to wonder - is avoiding the the Sveshnikov worth all of this? But it seems like there are times we all feel like doing this

  
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Re: Which is better anti-Sveshnikov? 3 Bb5 or 3 Nc
Reply #2 - 12/18/06 at 14:58:17
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no simple answer to this question I´m afraid...
  
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Re: Which is better anti-Sveshnikov? 3 Bb5 or 3 Nc
Reply #1 - 12/18/06 at 14:07:04
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3.Bb5 seems more accurate to reach your target.

On 3.Nc3 e6 and after 4.d4 cd 5.Nd4 Nf6 you have to forget about 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bf4 e5 8.Bg5 (Sviesnikov again) to play 6.Be2 (6...Bb4 7.00 would suit your style !) or 6.Bg5 with less analysed positions. Or you could play 4.d3!? ...
  
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Which is better anti-Sveshnikov? 3 Bb5 or 3 Nc3
12/17/06 at 10:17:00
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In old days , with White , after 1 e4 c5 , most of time I got a Najdorf and I had plenty of fun with 6 Bg5
Today , it's a Svechnikov , and I have no fun at all
Then , I selected 2 variations : 3 Bb5 , and 3 Nc3
Both have been played by players over 2700 , including Kasparov and Anand , so they are surely sound
Noow Ihesitate abot which gives The most possibilities of combinative play
I incline towards 3 Nc3 , since after 3..d6 I can play 4 d4 cxd4 5 Nxd4 Nf6 6 Bg5 , and it's a Richter-Rauzer
Now is 3 Nc3 yet an Anti-Sicilian , or just a way of playing Open Sicilian with avoiding the Svesh' ?
  
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